World War 2 Video Games

Hello Indy and team!I was wondering if you can do a WW2 Special episode in which you disscuss about the historical accuracy and setting of the ww2 related video games that launched previously like Call of Duty Vanguard or Battlefield V,similar to those videos from The Great War in which you analyzed Battlefield 1.Anyway cheers to the team and keep up the good work!

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Vanguard is more of a Alt-history from what I’m hearing. Would love for them to cover the original CoD’s though.

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Vanguard is not entirely accurate but the stories’ settings are really good,but overall it would be great to see World at War for example

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Command Ops 2, although a bit old, is a great WW2 operational simulation. It takes a bit of study to learn how to manage the myriad of units, but the effort is worth it. Includes, among others, the Battle of the Bulge, Operation Market Garden and the German invasion of Greece.

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At the AMU history faculty we had to use battlefront games which is really good. Basically the assignments encompassed writing research papers on and why tactics failed or not. This is the newer iteration. While their software has a high leaning curve it is rewarding.

https://www.battlefront.com/red-thunder/

It is pricy but they have a free demo and the data they use is scientifically checked which is cool.

https://www.battlefront.com/red-thunder/cmrt-base-game/?tab=demo

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Their Strategic Command series is now sold via Matrix games. Kinda long games/simulations but cool as well.

https://www.matrixgames.com/game/strategic-command-classic-wwii

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I always enjoyed the Commandos games, and the Close Combat strategy games. If anyone remembers those.

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Any thoughts on Hoi4, the game that Indy and company streamed earlier?

I had to miss the livestream since I was too busy updating my Hoi4 mod to the latest update. Oh, you guys set up an accurate recreation of the Eastern Front in late 1942? That’s cute :wink:

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It was quite fun to see, especially because Indy contrasted it with the real events. I bought a copy of the game through the TG Website as I want to give it a try.

The guys kinda taught me how it works :slight_smile:

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What is up with the border gore? :rofl:

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It’s HOI4. Border gore is inevitable.

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So did you try it? Which country did you played as? :slight_smile:

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Not yet. I installed 2 National Socialist killing games. 1 is HOI4 and the other is the remastered BloodRayne. I tossed a coin and completely randomly and totally unbiased :innocent: chose the Bloodrayne range. Well duty calls, I have to whack some Nazi’s again :laughing: :joy_cat:

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Thinking ahead, a HOI4 or other software simulation of Operation Downfall, the Invasion of Japan would be the next opportunity to integrate game simulations into the documentary. The US was putting every effort into Downfall until Japan surrendered and it would allow us to explore this path nearly taken much more thoroughly.

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Speaking of Operation Downfall… I have always found… it very easy to invade Japan and knock em out of the war (and then use their navy against the germans)… (on historical AI)… Germany first is a necessity in non historical AI.

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I never use historical AI. I find it very easy to exploit. I prefer turning it off and going Ironman. That way you truly never know what to expect. Sure, sometimes the results are… weird, but it still adds an amazing feeling of unpredictability.

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Non historical AI is when you wanna go… “Ok I am back from a pee break… what has happened in the game? Japan is democratic? Soviets and Germans have formed an alliance? Huh… Trotsky is in charge of Mexico?”

Ironman mode is too scary for me… It took me a very very long time to figure out how to beat the germans as the soviets in HOI4 (around a year) that too using cheats to get 196 civs as the soviet onion.

Don’t even get me started on the naval part (because I won’t be able to say anything lol)… I still haven’t understood it.

Of course it’s scary, that’s the point. War is scary and unpredictable. I doubt the defenders of Stalingrad were able to use cheat codes to defeat the Germans :wink:

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I just completed one of those courses this week, under Prof Goetz. It made a very nice change of pace. I’ve been playing CM for decades, but have been focusing mainly on the modern games, this course was an opportunity to get the Italian WW2 variant.

The National WW2 Museum is doing an event in, I think it’s March, which discusses, amongst other things, the role of video games in the teaching of history. I really need to check up on that, I’m one of the panelists… Look up “Memory Wars” on the museum website.

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Cool, Is that the Professor Goetz of the American Military University by any chance. Well it must be because he lets his students play Combat Mission and then write a term paper about it. He really is a great teacher with awesome discussion questions which provokes the interest!

Are you going for your a formal education or just getting some courses?

Best Regards,
Marc/Chewie

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