Well, like any video produces by the Belligerants it could be propaganda and staged.
Note that the Russian flag is covered with trash. So the maker wants us to believe that the Russian dump trash over their flag?
Or could it be that these great pictures were staged somewhere to make a point? Maybe he “expert” who made the video missed the obvious clue. But I can understand if you want to make videos and both parties supply you with input why not use it? But it might be wise to realize that BOTH sides here provide staged footage!
I agree that the Soviet Union also was one of the instigators and that the Soviet Russian history (like our colonial history) is onesided. I don’t think they completely were on the side of the Nazi’s but both wanted the destruction of Poland. And the Soviet Union wanted the Allies to keep fighting the Germans so both run out of steam and then take over the rest.
But at a personal level the Russians and Ukranians suffered massively and the “ubermensch policy and deeds of the Germans still resonate”. The Germans had a policy of Slavs are “Untermenschen” and raped, murdered and looted all over. Most people suffered massively and indeed there always has been a lot of bias against them here in the West. Those are not fairy tales as on forum member once claimed
I know the history is mixed but I can see their point of view and they very bow to sanctions. In spite of the umpteenth article that Putin is about to fall.
It seems more that the NATO coalition is suffering dents now with e.g. Slovakia , Poland and maybe US. It would not be the first time NATO exits a war.
After 9 years of having such discussions, I would really like to point out that Ukraine has made incredible progress against corruption.
Ukrainian officials have to publically state their wealth in detail, including wealth owned by their familiy. This is not the case in most EU countries btw.
Ukraine has introduced an anti-corruption special court, an anti-corruption investigation bureau and has already proscecuted over 60 political individuals. There is even an investigation against Kolomojski, the oligarch widely regarded to be behind Zelensky 3 years ago.
The corruption issue beyond that is one that is hard to measure. After all, most people refer to the corruption PERCEPTION index. Surveys among Ukrainian business men indicate that corruption occurs rarely for them (only 2% said it was a problem).
Meanwhile, I live in Germany. We had countless corruption scandals involving huge sums. Our chancellor is under investigation for corruption. Maybe we should collectively reset out perception a bit.
I disagree. I am in favor of an independent Ukraine in NATO, not as a tool for geopolitics in the caucasus but as a partner to support partners outside NATO in pursuit of sefdetermination and selfdefense.
Whatever you think of Stalin he was no Hitler. The idea of teaming up with Nazi Germany to take on the Soviets is ludicrous, would Jewish soldiers like Ed Shames 101st AB then have put together with the Nazis. And at the time Germany surrendered Japan was still fighting and a conventional invasion would have been a nightmare. The US actually trained the Soviet forces to land in the Kuriles (Northern Japan) as that was part of the plan for the invasion;
That Churchill and Patton were staunch anti-communists is correct but it is easy to say the Allied forces should have taken on the Soviets but there was no appetite for more millions of casualties and destruction. Also there is NO evidence I know of that Patton REALLY wanted a direct war with the Soviets.
Also the British kicked out anti-communist Churchill during the elections.
Patton died already, If you want to discuss come up with your own arguments why you think what you think!
Note this argument is probably taken out of context and often used in far right circles. Therefore reminder: Holocaust denial or any support for Nazi-Germany is not allowed under the forum rules! Clear? And greetings to Illinois
I wasn’t there, so I don’t know who, or why. It’s all water under the bridge. The word Ludicrous to me is a bit odd. Thanks anyhow for your comment. I feel much better.
A heartfelt thanks for your support, You are welcome put in a question about that Patton qoute to Timeghost ( I did and learned a lot of new stuff), or share your experiences information about anything history. I would like to learn new stuff and learned a lot from also very young people without any degree,
If this sounds cynical to you it is not meant so. Everyone I talked to or mailed with told me they learned a lot of new stuff like me. Welcome here and hope you enjoy the episode.
Well wherever you go, maybe try to learn that claiming an idiotic quote and pawning it off as fact to support whatever position you wish to argue is ludicrous. Yes Patton said that and so what? it was 78 years ago and the world is different. Btw Patton got fired for his actions and quotes like this because he became an embarrassment to the allied cause. So this is indeed right up your alley.
In the last 6 days according to both Ukrainian and Russian bloggers Russia has lost approximately some 309 tanks, APCs and other vehicles as well as some 3300 killed and over 4000 wounded.
What makes this ironic is both the Ukrainians and Russian bloggers actually agree on the numbers as both are fairly close to the others estimates. This equates to roughly 4 regiments worth of men have been killed or wounded based on 2000 men per regiment.
Basically it’s become a meat grinder for the Russians. Throw wave after wave and hope eventually one wave will break through.
It’s sad really that the people of Russia really don’t know how badly the war is going for them.
Well they are advancing. They may get Adiivka yet although I wonder if that comes even close to justify the loss. But the war is portrayed differently on home fronts. I keep hearing not our war and it’s over, Russia won.
Objectively, Russia is winning as they have a good chunk of the territory they needed and since gains are being measured in meters, it won’t change fast. Ukraine’s manpower situation seems rather dire given the average age of their soldiers is I believe 43 now.
