Today we commemorate the end of ww2

Let us take a moment of silence and contemplation for all the lives lost and/or forever hurt and in turmoil due to all the pain and suffering caused on one another. Never forget :pray:

Many Dutch civilians suffered immensely under the Jack boot of the Germans and Japanese. What really saddens me is that we, the Netherlands, had learned nothing from this and waged war upon Indonesia, refusing their hard earned independence. Even now, it took so long for the king and government to apologise. I truly am ashamed about that and on my behalf I sincerely apologise to al the beautiful people from Indonesia :pray::hugs:

Luckily, this great Army already made a very good series about the ‘politionele acties’ , forever grateful Indy, Spartacus, Astrid and all team members

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Never apologize for events which you personally had no control over. :slight_smile:

My family (from my father’s side) owned black slaves until 1819. 200 years later, and I’m never going to apologize for the actions of my ancestors.

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I respect your point of view and I understand I have no personal guilt, however, I feel that we as a nation and as colonists need to express our humble apologies to all peoples that have been enslaved and subdued, just like the Nazi’s and Japanese did.
My point is that we must never forget that every country or people has a history of doubtful heritage.

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True, however, always learn from your mistakes in a good way. I really despise how modern academia, especially the really political variety, tends to forever demonize nations and especially people for this kind of stuff. Yes, horrible stuff happened, but we mustn’t let that color our views on history. What’s done is done (most of the time). The worst part about this tendency is that it prevents us from properly dealing with our mistakes.

For all of America’s and indeed, the world’s, problems and mistakes in the past, an apology is not fully worth it, especially when most if not all participants involved are either dead or very elderly and probably won’t give a crap. It would be a case of too little too late.

My grandfather fought against the Germans and even he was willing to let his misgivings go within a year of the war’s end.

My father, on the other hand, never let his hatred against North Korea and China go, not just because of the Korean War (where he fought) but also because they’re still going on with their inhumane activities to this day.

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I hear you Norman, my fellow friend, if I may be so bold. :hugs:
Maybe it is also a question of character. But let me be clear on my respect and appreciation for all true members of the Timeghost Army!
We all know the truth is always up for interpretation but discussion on this platform envigerates me and makes me more appreciative of fellow armymembers like you!

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Aww, thank you very much for your kind words. :slight_smile:

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You are very much welcome Norman, it is through contacts like ours that this great Army thrives and expands, which is important for the education of the whole world about the most important events of recent history

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Excellent suggestion Harry, thanks for the well developed reminder!

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You are very much welcome, my friend :pray::+1:

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I agree so much :heart: The moral character of nation is the sum of each persons willigness, to see beyond the personal needs and learn, forgive and apologise.
I saw a female description of a man who saved a dog: “You can judge the character of a man on the way he threats those who will give him nothing in return” So when you apologise for something that is not your personal fault, that a brave thing to do, and the worlds needs more of that.

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Thank you, Finn, for your support in this matter! The world needs more healing and less hatred and foolish pride and we all can contribute by at least acknowledge where we as a nation or peoples were wrong. :pray:

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