The valiant Defenders of Ukraine

“If only Russia could have persuaded Serbia to accept the 1914 Austrian Ultimatum, the world would have been so much more peacful”

I hope you see the logical fallacy here.

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Not that she shouldn’t have made a point about the “rape of Ukraine”, but the real point of dismissal was the following:

According to him, from the beginning of the war, Denisova almost did not fulfill her powers to organize humanitarian corridors, protect and exchange prisoners, counteract the deportation of people and children from the occupied territories, and other human rights activities, and Vereshchuk did it instead.

Apparently, another point of pain was this:

he MP also reproached Denisova for spending a long time abroad after February 24, but not in Russia or Belarus, where her status and powers could help the prisoners, deportees and residents of Kherson region suffering from occupation, but in Davos, Vienna, Warsaw and other "warm and calm Western Europe

Also, I find it hilarious how you can point out institutionalised rape by Russian soldiers and still maintain of the viewing point that they are ‘liberating’ Ukraine.

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The Austrian Bundesheer providing information and evaluation in English:

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Nobody? Did you speak to everybody?

You didn’t follow much of Great War?
Serbia did accept Austrian ultimatum. Austria simply wanted war.
Russia, on the other hand, offered many options to avoid confrontation and military operations, for many years.

I am only pointing out to failure of western PR/propaganda stories. Not many outside west is buying those any more.

Yes Austria and Germany wanted the great war,
America wanted parts of Mexico
The Belgium King wanted a part of Africa
Stalin wanted Finland , Estonia , Latvia , Poland and just took them
Poetin wanted Ukraine and started a war in 2014
Just because people in the past took things because they could does not mean that Putin should be able to get away with it now
Might does not make right.
And all the while Russian conscripts and Ukrainian people are dying , just so that Putin can feel like he is a big man.
There is no glory in war only misery.

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Objectively speaking, it is much easier to assess the opinions of only the people in this forum, as opposed to assessing the opinions of ‘everyone outside the West’.

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That is what we are witnessing these days - end of the hegemony of western elite - just because they thought they are better, smarter, more powerful, doesn’t mean that they can have it any more and get away with injustices.

There is no glory in being slave either, only misery.

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I am new to this forum, so wouldn’t dare to assess what people here think. On the other hand, have decades of experience with people around the world, specially outside the West - while I can’t vouch for everyone, I can guarantee you that majority is pissed off by being preached, disrespected, exploited.

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So because you have a bad life and not everything is handed to you on a silver platter you think it is okay that Putin starts a war and invades a neighbour to kill civilians.
Because that will somehow hurt the west who you see as the big bad and make you feel better.

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My initial comment on this forum was explanation about how rules of international law were destroyed by the West, starting from 1999 aggression on Yugoslavia:

That was followed with many other Western wars, invasions, interventions, coloured revolutions, regime changes, and other actions that undermined and effectively destroyed international rules.

I am sorry that I have to remind participants here of their hypocrisy when they cry crocodile tears about Ukraine (that they couldn’t care less about other than using them to fight Russia).

Russo-phobia and anti-Russian behaviour has long tradition in the West. During the Cold War it was disguised by ideology - fight against “communism”. But it was increasingly obvious in recent years:

It is not related to Putin, regime, officials - it was and now obviously legitimized complete cancellation of Russian civilization.

However, this is my view, for which I have provided evidence. I could be wrong.

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This is the text that explains water situation:

Good news is that with capture/liberation of Severodonetsk water is back to Donbass, hopefully to stay.

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The Ukraine is not the only conflict brewing and with the rising food prices more conflicts might spark up.

Here is another one with China possibly using the focus on the Ukraine to do their own thing with the Pacific Islanders like Kiribati/ Palau e.g. The Ukrain is just one mess (Sri Lanka is a mess too Gravitas: Small Pacific Nations reject China’s deal - YouTube

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And this, my friend is exactly why you cannot condemn Russia. You still believe Kosovo is rightful Serbian clay and the Russians are the only ones willing to back you on the matter. https://ecfr.eu/article/bound-to-russia-serbias-disruptive-neutrality/

And this goes for all those who back Putin. It is because of some issue they may have with the west that they need a ‘strong’ friend to come in and support them. The problem is that it does not reflect well on you if you cozy up to the degenerates of the world. Because you tied your domestic issue to a stupid edgelord, you can not cut ties with him and expect to uphold your claims. It is not because Putin is right, but because you need him to be right for you to also be right.

Serbia and Hungary, the revisionist retards of the Balkans

To quote Indian Foreign Minister, brilliant Dr. Jaishankar:
"Don’t use caricature version of one situation as yardstick, to pass a sweeping judgement "

In other words, don’t disrespect other people, their culture, values, history. Don’t let your hatred blind you, prevent you from seeing reality, from learning. World is changing, West is not the only power, specially not Europe. Future is elsewhere.
It is very sad to see that West can’t respect even is own rules any more, yet it blames others.

It is not only Russia and India that tells you that, China too:

Wu Qian referenced United States military interventions in Iraq and Syria as an example of “master of bullying,” and bombing of the Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia 23 years ago. NATO bombing of Yugoslavia under Operation Allied Force involved five US Joint Direct Attack Munition guided bombs that were dropped on People’s Republic of China embassy in the Belgrade district of New Belgrade.

Chinese official also slammed US, saying that it violates rules “more than anyone else” and argued that Washington unilaterally withdraws from agreements. “We urge the US to stop the wrong practice of presenting its domestic regulations as international rules and promoting the US-style ‘hegemonic order.’ We encourage it to accept China’s peaceful development objectively and rationally,”

It is indeed sad that Ukrainians have fallen victims of their incompetent leadership manipulated by the world’s hegemon. Same happened to Bosnia in 1990 - they abandoned already signed peace agreement with their neighbours in the same way Ukraine abandoned Minsk Agreements.

Don’t you think that those nations deserve to have a choice?

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I never argued on the facts that the balance of power is shifting. I do not disagree that a better balance of power will improve the lives of people globally. What I am concerned with is that it will just shift into the hands of another hegemon.
Somehow you believe that oppression by Russia and China will make the world a peacful Valhalla, but that is just naive. The colonized inhabitants of south east asia thought that in 1942 the Japanese came in to liberate them. They would be quickly disappointed to find out it was just another colonizer and another oppressor. I do not see any reasonable argument from you to suggest China or Russia wouldn’t be the same if not worse.

You mean the agreement that outlined how Bosnia would be ruled from Belgrade? Yes, I wonder why they wanted to get rid of that. This is the kind of historic revisionism and blatant propaganda that makes you a pariah.

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People like you love pointing out all the wrongs of the West, but somehow you ignore the faults of your country.

You can say all you will and like about all the mistakes that the west makes, but let me tell you one thing: “We’ll allow it”

We will allow it from ourselves and from you, because that is what freedom of speech is about. The freedom of speech that one does not get in Russia or China. So go on, criticize the west all you want, but do not dare for a second think that those faults are arguments in favor of your system of government. Your government doesn’t fix shit, it only covers up the mistakes it makes and dishes them out in pretty little propaganda packets with ribbons on them.

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Ferguson on the Ukraine war. Interesting view with stark warnings about Cold War 2.

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