Il Duce and der Führer Have a Date - WW2 - 030 - March 23 1940

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French Prime Minister Daladier overplays his hand and is replaced after his vision regarding Scandinavia wasn’t widely shared in the French parliament. Meanwhile, the French and British in France are preparing for a German attack. If Hitler gets it his way, they will also have to prepare for an attack in the south as Hitler…


Sides at present:

World War Two

Allies: Australia+, Bahrain-, Canada, Czechoslovakia^, France+, Nepal, New Zealand+, Oman-, Poland^, South Africa, United Kingdom+

Axis: Germany, Slovakia~, USSR*

Insurgencies in the Italian Empire’

Italian: Italy+

Rebels: Albanian resistance, Ethiopian Arbegnoch

2nd Sino-Japanese War’

Sino: China**

Japanese: Japan+, Manchukuo~, Mengkukuo~, Ngolok Tibetans***, Provisional ROC~, Reformed ROC~


^occupied with resistance movement.

+Includes the country’s colonies or overseas territories

-self-governing protectorate or territory

‘SPOILER WARNING: The Insurgencies in the Italian Empire & the 2nd Sino-Japanese War remain unconnected to World War II until June 1940(When Italy declares war on the Allies) & September 1940 (When Japan invades French Indochina & joins the Tripartite Pact). After these points, I’ll roll them into World War II.

*I have the USSR on the Axis side because both Germany & them are currently at war with Poland(The Soviets invaded on September 17, 1939), divided Poland between themselves pre-invasion, are working together to end the Polish resistance, & are trading war materials. This is all detailed in the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, the German–Soviet Frontier Treaty, the German–Soviet Credit Agreement, & the German–Soviet Commercial Agreement. SPOILER WARNING: After Operation Barbarossa in June 1941, I will move them to the 3rd parties list(See my policy on country placement below) & then move them to the Allies after the signing of the Sikorski–Mayski agreement in July 1941 between the Polish government-in-exile & the USSR.

**The Kuomintang & Communist Parties have signed a truce to fight the Japanese as part of the Second United Front lead by Chiang Kai-shek, but coordination is minimal & both deeply mistrust the other.

***The Ngolok rebellions were a brutal ethnic conflict fought in Qinghai/Amdo between Ngolok Tibetans & the Hui dominated Ma clique who were loyal to the Kuomintang government of China. Despite having a common enemy in the Kuomintang, the Ngolok Tibetans & Japan were only co-belligerents as they didn’t have a formal alliance & didn’t coordinate in military planning.

MY POLICY ON COUNTRY PLACEMENT: If a country declares war on or attacks another country & at least one of them is already involved in World War II, I’ll list the other as a part of the opposing faction. That is why the events of the Winter War are included in the main World War II list & the events of the War of ‘41(Ecuador vs. Peru) will not be. The countries listed in the factions above are comprised of both official members & co-belligerents. The terms “Allies” & “Axis” are used for both kinds of belligerents as a convenient way to distill the world war & it’s adjoining conflicts, with disclaimers used to elaborate on some of the more complicated situations. If a country or resistance movement is at war with at least one country form both factions, I’ll add them to the 3rd parties list with a disclaimer. At the moment, no one fits this description, so I’ll wait until someone does to create it. I have to consolidate factions along co-belligerency or else the number of factions will balloon out of control. Finally, each post only represents the factions as they were 79 years ago to the day. Many countries will join, leave, or switch sides before the war ends for various reasons & I strongly encourage you to look into the situation of each country for yourself.


It were two boring days! :grinning:


What is up with the titles?


Sorry if you’ve already addressed this question … shouldn’t Newfoundland, India and Burma be listed separately from the United Kingdom? Newfoundland was a dominion (although under British financial control after the Great Depression) and India/Burma were at least as involved as Nepal on the allied side…


Correct me if Im wrong, but France had something like 48 Prime Ministers in the 21 years between the end of WW1 and the start of WW2.


The Third French Republic: where everybody knows your name…in a resignation speech.


This next one’s gonna work out guys, we promise.


A couple of people has asked before. Short answer is I include places that have at least enough independence to govern themselves on a day to day basis & that I can find an official declaration of war for. I have the “+” disclaimer to represent places that fall below that threshold. I’ll include the State of Burma & Azad Hind as part of the Axis when the time comes. As for Newfoundland, a guy from there asked me about that a few weeks back. I told him that since responsible government was suspended at the time, it fell below the threshold. He understood & was very chill about it.


As a Newfoundlander I agree, definitely mostly under British control.


Ok, so, Royal Newfoundland Navy Admiral? :wink:



Commodore Commanding of the Timeghost Escort Force.

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What do you mean?

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Il Duce and der Führer Have a Date. :smirk:


I think that Der Führer might later this year try to cheat on Il Duce with El Caudillo.

They sure loved their titles those years didn’t they?

Germany - Hitler - führer
Italy - Mussolini - duce
Spain - Franco - caudillo
Romania - Antonescu - conducător
Croatia - Pavelic - poglavnik
Norway - Quisling - fører
Netherlands - Mussert - leider (De Clercq in Flanders used the same title)
Slovakia - Tiso - vodca
Hungary - Szálasi (who succeeded Horthy) - nemzetvezető
Burma (as Japanese client state) - Ba Maw - adipati

And extra special bonus, some allied leaders as well:
Soviet Union - Stalin - vozhd
Yugoslavia - Tito - maršal
Greece - Metaxas - arhigos

And then there’s this guy:

No offense whatsoever meant. Just posted in jest.

Speaking of Caudillos. What if general Sanjurjo doesn’t die in a plane crash and is actually able to assume the leadership of the nationalist coalition in the Spanish Civil War?


Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense.